kammo-man Posted July 21, 2019 Share #1 Posted July 21, 2019 Here’s some TAP smocks The iconic Lizard camouflage jacket was invented in 1947 and weeny through many changes over the years. The pattern was adopted by the Vietnamese and became the famous tiger pattern. It also in turn is is in use today by the USAf not bad for a 80 year old scheme . Here’s the 1947 print along side the 51 print Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted July 22, 2019 Share #2 Posted July 22, 2019 Nice smocks Owen! Always my favorite camo pattern. Years ago my collector friends & I went up in the hills of central Oahu to see which camo pattern was the best. We had, besides French TAP, US ERDL, Sateen greens, Portuguese colonial, Belgian, VN Tiger Stripes & WW2 US green-side-out camo. Central Oahu is lush with all kinds of green foliage but also has a lot of iron in the soil making for red earth colors as well all kinds of different greens. Hands down the best pattern, at least for this location, was the French. Portuguese came a close second. The worst was the solid green. Stood out like a sore thumb compared to all the camo patterns. Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted July 22, 2019 Share #3 Posted July 22, 2019 And of course, the US Army wore solid green for years. Also known as "pickle suits". It used to be somewhat embarrassing to show up at a NATO event and be the only ones there without some kind of spiffy camo pattern. Here, members of the Portuguese Army survey an American Supply Depot with members of the 708th Maintenance Bn., Baumholder, Federal Republic of Germany, circa 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted July 23, 2019 Jon Great report In hindsight did you ever take any pictures? I know lots of ya never never did !! Gil Great pic and sad Owen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted July 23, 2019 Here’s the all important smock back pockets Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted July 24, 2019 Share #6 Posted July 24, 2019 Owen, I did indeed take a few pictures. It was back in the late 1980s. I have to find them. Somewhere in boxes full of pics in my garage. So easy now with digital cameras in every phone. Question regarding your pic above: What's the significance of the back pocket on the smocks? Early versions? I have about 9 sets and none have a back pocket. I figure they all came from later, Algerian War era? Surplus for the Israelis? Thanks, Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted July 24, 2019 Jon The best ones you have look like the 2 outer ones. Lets see those ones and I can tell you what ye got. owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted July 26, 2019 Share #8 Posted July 26, 2019 OK, thanks. Here's the left one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted July 26, 2019 Share #9 Posted July 26, 2019 The one on the right above. This one has trousers with suspenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted July 26, 2019 Share #10 Posted July 26, 2019 Here's another with an intact para flap on the back. This wasn't pictured in post #6 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted July 26, 2019 Share #11 Posted July 26, 2019 This one looks like the ones worn in 1978 Kolwezi in the Congo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted July 30, 2019 Share #12 Posted July 30, 2019 The devil is in the details between the various variants of Mle. 1947 TAP smocks. I tried to upload a Powerpoint file that shows them, but it was too big. The last jacket you show is not a TAP smock but a TTA (Troupe Toute Armee, general issue) jacket. The smocks can be recognized by the 3 press closures per pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted July 30, 2019 Share #13 Posted July 30, 2019 I found some more info on that last jacket; I believe it to be a camouflaged version of the Tenue de Combat Mle 1947. It was issued to some parachute units in France in 1952, but has not been issued to troops in Indo-China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA227 Posted July 31, 2019 Share #14 Posted July 31, 2019 Great jackets. Rich A. in Pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia kaha Posted December 24, 2021 Share #15 Posted December 24, 2021 Just found this in an old bag under the house. wings are standard Drago Paris marked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted December 24, 2021 Share #16 Posted December 24, 2021 That appears to be a TAP47 first model smock with the tail removed? Great find! You have a pic of the back of the jump wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA227 Posted December 24, 2021 Share #17 Posted December 24, 2021 Nice piece. Rich A. in Pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia kaha Posted December 30, 2021 Share #18 Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/25/2021 at 12:18 AM, earlymb said: That appears to be a TAP47 first model smock with the tail removed? Great find! You have a pic of the back of the jump wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted December 30, 2021 Share #19 Posted December 30, 2021 Just 'DRAGO - PARIS' with the 'tile'-pattern' indicates 1956-1988 production I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC123 Posted April 8, 2022 Share #20 Posted April 8, 2022 Interestingly a decent number of these smocks in the lizard pattern were given to Israel in the 1960’s and can be seen on various photos of Israeli paratroopers in Jerusalem during the six day war in 1967. The Israeli used jackets can be found with the IDF Zahal ink stamp inside the jacket along side the French production markings Also here is a good write up of the variations found on camopedia https://camopedia.org/index.php/French_Airborne_uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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