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Anyone have any images legit pre-1975 PAVN rank insignia?


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#1 CaptConfederacy

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 08:37 AM

One of my areas of collecting interest is in the Vietnam War, specifically US and ARVN items.  However, I've been thinking about expanding into items from wartime North Vietnam, specifically rank items like shoulder boards and collar tabs.  The problem is I don't know what (if any) differences can be seen between post-1975 rank items and pre-1975 rank items.  The internet is surprisingly scarce about this area, and I was wondering if anyone has images of known PAVN wartime insignia or knows what to look for.

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 06:12 PM

I think immediately after the war, shoulder boards were pretty much the same.  I am not sure if they have been updated in the meantime.



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Posted 19 September 2019 - 06:15 PM

Check this out:

 

http://grunt-redux.a...eu/nva_rank.htm

 

https://en.wikipedia..._military_ranks



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Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:56 PM

I do, I will post them tomorrow. They were ordered not to be worn in RVN.

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Posted 22 September 2019 - 01:41 PM

Here is a link for the thread "NVA Portraits: Immediate Postwar". There are some with collar tabs, but also a nice studio portrait showing a soldier wearing shoulder boards.

 

http://www.worldmili...ediate-postwar/



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Posted 24 September 2019 - 05:55 AM

Thanks for the info, guys.



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Posted 24 September 2019 - 05:55 AM

I do, I will post them tomorrow. They were ordered not to be worn in RVN.

 

Great!  I'd love to see them.



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Posted 28 September 2019 - 05:51 AM

Sorry for the delay, I forgot about this. 

 

Rank Op Hastings 19 Jul 1966.JPG

This is a screen grab from a video of Operation Hastings on 19 July 1966

 

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This one is captioned as being taken in Saigon in April 1975. It is odd, I have never seen green insignia elsewhere. I wonder if this photo is incorrectly colorized?

 

I think I have a couple more photos but I am disorganized. Most of them the resolution is not high enough to make out any useful details.

 

 

 

 



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Posted 29 September 2019 - 04:01 PM

I don't think its the colorization of the color tabs, they actually look green. If you look at the insignia on the helmet you can see the red tone to them



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Posted 30 September 2019 - 06:24 AM

Great!  Thank you for the screen shot. 



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Posted 30 September 2019 - 06:51 PM

Sorry for the delay, I forgot about this. 
 
attachicon.gifRank Op Hastings 19 Jul 1966.JPG
This is a screen grab from a video of Operation Hastings on 19 July 1966
 
attachicon.gif872b9714-a315-4e01-a289-1027e597d781.jpeg
This one is captioned as being taken in Saigon in April 1975. It is odd, I have never seen green insignia elsewhere. I wonder if this photo is incorrectly colorized?
 
I think I have a couple more photos but I am disorganized. Most of them the resolution is not high enough to make out any useful details.


That is a very unusual photo. I have never seen green rank tabs either during or after the war. It makes you wonder if it was a special unit or just a version of what we called subdued insignia.

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 06:11 AM

Thanks again for the info, guys.  It gives a good foundation.  Now, the question I have is this:  Does anyone have (or have had in the past) a genuine wartime PAVN collar insignia or shoulder board in their collection?  If so, can you post some images of these?  I know the "Land of Ho" is infamous for reproductions of everything for tourists, so an detailed image of a real piece would go a long way in rooting out the reproductions.

Thanks again.




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