Leo Posted January 3, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 3, 2020 Good evening all Just got this very cool cover in and wondering if I could get some help with the translation of the kanji inside. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted January 3, 2020 Also is this a 3rd pattern ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted January 3, 2020 Inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leo Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted January 3, 2020 The helmet it came with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted January 3, 2020 Star Looks like copper underneath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Queen Posted January 3, 2020 Share #9 Posted January 3, 2020 Name is on the left. 関口 Sekiguchi (surname) 正平 Masahira (given name) The unit name is on the right. I can read it but don't understand it. Perhaps Rod can help with this one. 市野沢部隊 = Ichinozawa (probably commanders name) Butai (unit) 芋野隊 = Imono (probably commanders name) Tai (unit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted January 3, 2020 Name is on the left. 関口 Sekiguchi (surname) 正平 Masahira (given name) The unit name is on the right. I can read it but don't understand it. Perhaps Rod can help with this one. 市野沢部隊 = Ichinozawa (probably commanders name) Butai (unit) 芋野隊 = Imono (probably commanders name) Tai (unit) As always Eric your knowledge and quick response on this forum always amazes me. Would be great to know what unit he was In Thankyou Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 3, 2020 Share #11 Posted January 3, 2020 Name is on the left. 関口 Sekiguchi (surname) 正平 Masahira (given name) The unit name is on the right. I can read it but don't understand it. Perhaps Rod can help with this one. 市野沢部隊 = Ichinozawa (probably commanders name) Butai (unit) 芋野隊 = Imono (probably commanders name) Tai (unit) Sorry Eric and Leo, wish I could help. Ichinozawa Butai's formal identity is probably lost to time. Before the army adopted code names and numbers in 1940, it used commander's names to hide its identity and size but transfers and casualties took their toll. About the only information I can offer is "Butai" is likely a regiment and "Tai" a company. For some reason the army preferred to ignore battalion commanders in their communications. To add another layer of intrigue, if Ichinozawa Butai was an independent battalion then it's commander's name would apply after all. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp h. Posted January 4, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 4, 2020 Hi Leo, you have a second pattern cover with what appears to be a sun helmet star sewn to it.Fr0m what I can see in photo number 4 it a size large out of the Hiroshima clothing depot, thats all I can see because the cover is folded.I've never heard of a copper star, I could be wrong,however there are brass stars and it's my understanding they are rare.By the way that's a nice lid and cover. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake1941 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #13 Posted January 4, 2020 Beautiful helmet, and the cover is in great shape as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussM Posted January 4, 2020 Share #14 Posted January 4, 2020 Really nice set! The star on the cover was also used on caps, as well as sun helmets and covers. Regards Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Lukas Posted January 4, 2020 Share #15 Posted January 4, 2020 Third pattern cover with bottom reinforced band. It has late bevo star insignia which is heavily worn. 1st pattern cover has star with no circle backing. 2nd pattern has star on circle backing. Third pattern cover has reinforced bottom edge band. A few variations of each pattern exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted January 4, 2020 Sorry Eric and Leo, wish I could help. Ichinozawa Butai's formal identity is probably lost to time. Before the army adopted code names and numbers in 1940, it used commander's names to hide its identity and size but transfers and casualties took their toll. About the only information I can offer is "Butai" is likely a regiment and "Tai" a company. For some reason the army preferred to ignore battalion commanders in their communications. To add another layer of intrigue, if Ichinozawa Butai was an independent battalion then it's commander's name would apply after all. Cheers! Firstly Thankyou Rod for the information, You and Eric always come through for me regarding the translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted January 4, 2020 Hi Leo, you have a second pattern cover with what appears to be a sun helmet star sewn to it.Fr0m what I can see in photo number 4 it a size large out of the Hiroshima clothing depot, thats all I can see because the cover is folded.I've never heard of a copper star, I could be wrong,however there are brass stars and it's my understanding they are rare.By the way that's a nice lid and cover. Bill Hi Bill You are right, its actually Brass not copper. The paint is coming away to reveal it. Thankyou for your kind words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted January 4, 2020 Beautiful helmet, and the cover is in great shape as well Thanks Wake Appreciate you taking the time to look at the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted January 4, 2020 Really nice set! The star on the cover was also used on caps, as well as sun helmets and covers. Regards Russ Thanks Russ That clears up the insignia for me, others have also said the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted January 4, 2020 Third pattern cover with bottom reinforced band. It has late bevo star insignia which is heavily worn. 1st pattern cover has star with no circle backing. 2nd pattern has star on circle backing. Third pattern cover has reinforced bottom edge band. A few variations of each pattern exist Thankyou ST Lucas Great information on some of the covers used, thats helped me a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp h. Posted January 4, 2020 Share #21 Posted January 4, 2020 Third pattern cover with bottom reinforced band. It has late bevo star insignia which is heavily worn. 1st pattern cover has star with no circle backing. 2nd pattern has star on circle backing. Third pattern cover has reinforced bottom edge band. A few variations of each pattern exist I didn't know there was a third pattern cover,thanks guys I learned something new here today. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted January 7, 2020 Lots of very helpful members here Ive learned something new too Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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