phillock Posted January 26, 2019 Share #1 Posted January 26, 2019 Hi all Not sure of this one ts the same size as 5th SF but I have doubts this is US. The symbology doesn't lean towards US SF. The patch came from Germany and thats all I know. cheers Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted January 26, 2019 Share #2 Posted January 26, 2019 This insignia looks very similar to the one of Bundeswehr Panzerbataillon 64 "Die Woelfe" (the wolves) except for the background color. There are no beret flashes in use by Bw soldiers. Could we see a picture of the back, please. http://panzer.weissenborn.biz/Datenbanken/Bataillone/Bataillone.php?btlDetail=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted January 26, 2019 Thank you Proud Kraut, I will post the reverse when I get the image from my friend. thank you Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted January 26, 2019 Here is the reverse PK Would this be a 1980's-90's SSI and what does the colour Black represents. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted January 27, 2019 Share #5 Posted January 27, 2019 To answer your questions. First I would like to confirm the mentioned timeframe. Black, if used intentionally here, can have different meanings. 1. Black is the branch color of the Bw Engineers branch. 2. Referring to the "Prussian Color Sequence" black represents "6th" (unfortunately Armor units don't have a 6th Company). 3. Black is the color of the beret used by German Armor troops. Metal or bullion branch insignia are worn with the beret. I have attached a picture of the beret insignia worn with the black beret (standard badge on the left, "tanker modified" variant on the right, side note: notice the bend down guns, gunners used to do that after their first live firing) which are worn without any flashes. I don't think that your insignia was worn on the Bw BDU (to small, no velcro back). Some more wild guessing: Maybe the unit's design was used by someone else for unknown reasons. Or could it be in fact an U.S. insignia? I know that PzBtl 64 has had a partnership with an U.S. Armor unit at some time. Hope someone else can solve that riddle. Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted January 27, 2019 Thanks Lars The investigation continues. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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