Dogsbody Posted July 8, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 8, 2020 I recently found these two books. Normally one copy would suffice but inside both books there is an added bonus. They are individually named to two scholars who took part in a competition and appear to be signed by Grossadmiral Raeder himself (whose signature funnily reads as Raider). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Kraut Posted July 8, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 8, 2020 Nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 8, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 8, 2020 Hi Rene. Wow! and Wow! Since my German is a little rusty, can you give me any info on the books? And what was the competition you mentioned? Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the Collector Posted July 8, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 8, 2020 That is a great score,if you want to determine if the autographs are real get a jewelers loupe...if you have one and see if the ink has "bleed" into the paper or if it appears to be solid and laying on the surface.Second,look at the intersections of the letters and see if the ink crosses over,that is what you want to see,not solid and even color at the junction.To me they both look like the style of his signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 6:33 PM, Proud Kraut said: Nice find! Thanks!🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 8:58 PM, mikie said: Hi Rene. Wow! and Wow! Since my German is a little rusty, can you give me any info on the books? And what was the competition you mentioned? Mikie Hi Mikie, the books themselves are a sort of pictorial reprsentation of what it's like to be in the navy. They were issued by the German Navy. Unfortunately I have no clue about the competition. My best guess is that it may be some sort competition amongst new recruits or something like that. Here are some pics from the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 9:50 PM, Jack the Collector said: That is a great score,if you want to determine if the autographs are real get a jewelers loupe...if you have one and see if the ink has "bleed" into the paper or if it appears to be solid and laying on the surface.Second,look at the intersections of the letters and see if the ink crosses over,that is what you want to see,not solid and even color at the junction.To me they both look like the style of his signature. I'm quitely confident that the signatures are real. There is overlap at certain points. The only thing that will be hard to determine is if Raeder himself signed the books or that he had someone do it for him. Here is a better picture of one of the signatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the Collector Posted July 9, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dogsbody said: I'm quitely confident that the signatures are real. There is overlap at certain points. The only thing that will be hard to determine is if Raeder himself signed the books or that he had someone do it for him. Here is a better picture of one of the signatures. Sorry,the original photos it was hard to see the lay of the ink.This shows its a live signature and again they both look good to me.Now if you have compared these to others of his and it's giving you doubt,let me tell you this.Raeder had a very inconsistent signature.Varieties are not uncommon.You will see him sign very clearly to a scribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 9, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 9, 2020 Rene, Remarkable not only that you found a book quite possibly signed by him, but to find 2 of them! Very cool! Hope this doesn't sound silly, but are there any pictures of sailors doing laundry or laundry hanging out to dry? If so please post them. Well, OK, after writing that, it's hard for that NOT to sound silly. But it's a way of life for me. Thanks! And hope all your goodie hunting goes as well as this one. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted July 10, 2020 15 hours ago, mikie said: Rene, Remarkable not only that you found a book quite possibly signed by him, but to find 2 of them! Very cool! Hope this doesn't sound silly, but are there any pictures of sailors doing laundry or laundry hanging out to dry? If so please post them. Well, OK, after writing that, it's hard for that NOT to sound silly. But it's a way of life for me. Thanks! And hope all your goodie hunting goes as well as this one. Mikie Hi Mikie, here you go....... There's also another picture that might be of interest to you........ especially since your recent forays into model shipbuilding 😊 Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted July 10, 2020 16 hours ago, Jack the Collector said: Sorry,the original photos it was hard to see the lay of the ink.This shows its a live signature and again they both look good to me.Now if you have compared these to others of his and it's giving you doubt,let me tell you this.Raeder had a very inconsistent signature.Varieties are not uncommon.You will see him sign very clearly to a scribble. Thanks for the extra info! Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 10, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Dogsbody said: Hi Mikie, here you go....... There's also another picture that might be of interest to you........ especially since your recent forays into model shipbuilding 😊 Rene Oh how wonderful! Thank you Rene! I've been hunting the internet for a few weeks and haven't come up with anything. Just in case you were wondering about how severe my madness is, here is my explanation... I have 2 US navy veteran friends who are also WWII buffs. I like to give them navy themed gifts for Christmas and birthdays. Well a while back I found these little gems and thought I could make a display for them. Hence the quest for German sailors doing laundry to use in a display. Thanks again! You are my hero! Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted July 13, 2020 Hi Mikie, glad I could help. Nice Kriegsmarine clothespins, by the way. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 15, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 10:07 AM, Dogsbody said: Hi Mikie, glad I could help. Nice Kriegsmarine clothespins, by the way. Rene Thanks. Glad you like them. Just let me know anytime you want to trade one of your books for one! Even trade, you won't have to pay any extra. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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