SS pin and some bullets.

[Alexa]

Hello guys, I got words about an old military dumping ground at a local river where i live,

So as a metal detector person i went there of course, 

So i found two bullets and an SS pin for now, may i have some help seing if it is an original pin please.

I am guessing the red one is a 7.62 mm, And the fat one is a 9mm.

 

[AB45]

Hey

If you found the SS part yourself, it should also be an original. I think in Norway no one will dump copies in the middle of nowhere.
The pictures are large, but unfortunately not much can be seen.
A 7.62mm doesn't fit there. They were not introduced into NATO until 1958.
And haven't seen it in red either.

[Brig]

Hard to see the rear details in that photo. The SS badge...is it a dagger part or a screwback pin? Membership pins were marked on the rear, and I've never seen a screwback. Unfortunately, when it comes to SS stuff, so much fake stuff is out there that yes, fake stuff has been found by detectorists

 

Now, dagger pieces have posts, similar to...

 

I spent 8 months stationed at Vaernes back in 2017. As I'm sure you know, it was appropriated by the Luftwaffe during WWII and I would take the CMD out metal detecting in my spare time. I always hoped I'd find a Norwegian or German badge or button to remember the deployment with, but sadly I never did.

 

There are a couple of Norwegians over at the Warrelics Forum who metal detect...this guy's topic in particular is fun to watch: https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/battlefield-history-relics/digging-norway-kurland-340658/

[Gear Fanatic]

The red bullet is maybe a traser?  Maybe post war, I am not sure, assuming it was found near the pin, I think it was made during the war and shot then. Maybe MG42 traser, you never know. Just my 2 cents!

 

-Gear Fanatic 

[S.ChrisKelly]

Post #1...

 

That first image is interesting.  Some measurements for comparison and size determination would help.  Given the size of the nut on the reverse, that ᛋᛋ badge is definitely not from a dagger.  It looks like the original owner took it off something else and modified it as a lapel pin.  Definitely, I think, 1940s.  Authentic, genuine ᛋᛋ insignia, I don't know.

 

The second image is a rifle bullet, definitely .30 caliber ~ plus, possibly .308 or .30-06, I'm not certain.  Shape is similar to the Axis ammo, but I'd need a clearer, zoomed ~ in picture.  Maybe 8mm bullet. I'm not familiar with the Warsaw Pact munitions, so I can't tell if it might be an AK47 bullet. Absolutely shows signs of corrosion.  Not long enough to be a tracer, but the red color looks like some sort of coating, could be paint.  

 

The third image could be anything.  My first instinct is .30 M1 carbine ammo.  Shape gave it away.  Doesn't look like 9mm or 9mm Luger ammo.  The verdigris on the right side indicates this is a copper jacketed bullet.

 

Those two bullets were definitely recovered from ground with super extra iron saturation, hence the corrosion.

Some Allied bullets...

 

{left to right}

U.S.A.

1. M1903 bullet (220 grain round nose)

2. M1906 ball (150 grain spitzer)

3. M1 ball (173 grain spitzer boat tail)

4. M2 ball (152 grain spitzer)

5. M2 Armor-Piercing (AP) (168 grain armor-piercing) bullet.

Source:

 

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/13015/what-is-this-ww2-ammo

 

 

 

 

Source:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_metal_jacket_(ammunition)