Prussian Army Enlisted Tunic, Real or Fake?

[theetatkuldiloke]

Does anyone knows if this Prussian tunic is authentic or not? Got it for only $30.

[themick]

Looks like you got a great buy on an original tunic.  Love the name tag.

 

Steve 

[theetatkuldiloke]

21 minutes ago, themick said:

Looks like you got a great buy on an original tunic.  Love the name tag.

 

Steve 

Thank you! How did you know that it is an original? 😅

[patches]

It's a curious one, as it is a Bavarian one, not Prussian, the Prussian 4th Regiment is a Grenadier Regiment, Grenadier-Regiment König Friedrich der Große  (3. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 4, can't find a image of their tunic, but it is wholly different in that they had Litzen on the collar and cuffs and a monogram on the shoulder straps, an FR II for Fridericus Rex der II.

 

Now the curiousty, it does correctly list the unit on the tag, r. b. 4. Inft-Regt this being Königlich Bayerisches 4. Infantrie Regiment König Wilhelm von Württemberg, that's the way the Bavarians list their Infantry Regiments, not like the Prussian's and the rest. The rank is correct too, Infanterist that's what a Private is called in the Bavarian Army. But it's the color of the tunic, it's Dark Blue, Prussian Blue, Bavarian's tunic are Light Blue, is it Light Blue with the photos making it look a darker Blue???

 

Just for fun, a Soldier of the 4th Bavarian Infantry in 1707, note a far back then the Light Blue Uniform  

[theetatkuldiloke]

28 minutes ago, patches said:

It's a curious one, as it is a Bavarian one, not Prussian, the Prussian 4th Regiment is a Grenadier Regiment, Grenadier-Regiment König Friedrich der Große  (3. Ostpreußisches) Nr. 4, can't find a image of their tunic, but it is wholly different in that they had Litzen on the collar and cuffs and a monogram on the shoulder straps, an FR II for Fridericus Rex der II.

 

Now the curiousty, it does correctly list the unit on the tag, r. b. 4. Inft-Regt this being Königlich Bayerisches 4. Infantrie Regiment König Wilhelm von Württemberg, that's the way the Bavarians list their Infantry Regiments, not like the Prussian's and the rest. The rank is correct too, Infanterist that's what a Private is called in the Bavarian Army. But it's the color of the tunic, it's Dark Blue, Prussian Blue, Bavarian's tunic are Light Blue, is it Light Blue with the photos making it look a darker Blue???

 

Just for fun, a Soldier of the 4th Bavarian Infantry in 1707, note a far back then the Light Blue Uniform  

I think it's light blue as seen in the last photo. I don't know if it's light enough though?

[themick]

10 hours ago, theetatkuldiloke said:

Thank you! How did you know that it is an original? 😅

The general construction, quality of the cloth and insignia, and the name tag. I've had a number of this type in my hands over the years.  BUT, pay more attention to the other responses.  I suspect they know more than I.  

 

Steve

[theetatkuldiloke]

Thank you guys so much!

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21 hours ago, themick said:

The general construction, quality of the cloth and insignia, and the name tag. I've had a number of this type in my hands over the years.  BUT, pay more attention to the other responses.  I suspect they know more than I.  

 

Steve

Your assessment is spot on mick.

 

 

I don't know, here one from the 8th Bayer, sold on some auction back a ways,see it too has a darker shade than the 18th and 19th Century ones right.

 

Two more here, perhaps by the 1890s, the shade was darker then traditional?

 

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/imperial-germany-austro-hungary/royal-bavarian-infantry-regiment-3-prince-karl-tunic-29624/

 

 

 

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More comparison of the Light Blue