GAZOO Posted December 12, 2024 #1 Posted December 12, 2024 Doing research on this Group to a French resistance fighter "PERNELLE Jean Alexis Ferdinand" Who was present during the "UNION II" OSS Mission Drop over the Saisies Pass in SAVOIE I should mention I am a US member and don't have much experience with the F.F.I. or read French so a bit at a loss. Looking for clarification on the following problem I am having deciphering the Unit number shown in this cropped image shown below The above image is part of the Official Paperwork, TITLED CERTIFICATE OF MEMBERSHIP in the French Forces of the Interior Dated 14 FEV 1950 For/sent to Monsieur PERNELLE Jean Alexis Ferdinand Please Note, Generated by The General Commanding the 8th Military Region. I cant make out the NUMBER is it a 3 or 5 or even an 8 ??? Thinking this came from the 8th Military Region it may stand to reason its the 8 Bat. A.S. SAVOIE ALSO what does the A.S. Stand for ??? Another issue is the LIST OF PARTICIPATION IN OPERATIONS from this 1944 dated paperwork. Below can anyone decipher the list Thanks and since i am at it I will add his patches. Believe the F.F.I. may be post war but the Triangle was mentioned as worn during the war.
toitoine66 Posted December 13, 2024 #2 Posted December 13, 2024 Hello, Apparently your boy was a part of the Bataillon BULLE with the Compagnie du Lac leaded by Cpt. Albert ESCANDE. He took part of the fallowing operations: -Mongirod: https://maitron.fr/spip.php?article252269 -Combat des Chapieux : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_des_Chapieux -La libération de la vallée de la Tarentaise: https://www.francebleu.fr/loisirs/evenements/24-aout-1944-la-vengeance-des-allemands-l-execution-de-21-hommes-de-moutiers-1408856400 -Le Col de Forcle: https://www.memoire-des-alpins.com/historique-des-troupes-alpines/1944-1945-2/bataille-des-alpes/tarentaise/ -I can't read the second one "Cornet d'A...?" "Memorial of the Compagnie BULLE build in 2020" There are tow intersting wiki links I assume you can translate it with google: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Bulle https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Montagnards_de_la_nuit The triangular insigna is for the Secret Army of Savoie. The letters A.S. on the documents mean "Armée Secrète" (Secret Army). https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armée_secrète_(France)
GAZOO Posted December 14, 2024 Author #3 Posted December 14, 2024 2 hours ago, toitoine66 said: Hello, Apparently your boy was a part of the Bataillon BULLE with the Compagnie du Lac leaded by Cpt. Albert ESCANDE. He took part of the fallowing operations: -Mongirod: https://maitron.fr/spip.php?article252269 -Combat des Chapieux : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_des_Chapieux -La libération de la vallée de la Tarentaise: https://www.francebleu.fr/loisirs/evenements/24-aout-1944-la-vengeance-des-allemands-l-execution-de-21-hommes-de-moutiers-1408856400 -Le Col de Forcle: https://www.memoire-des-alpins.com/historique-des-troupes-alpines/1944-1945-2/bataille-des-alpes/tarentaise/ -I can't read the second one "Cornet d'A...?" "Memorial of the Compagnie BULLE build in 2020" There are tow intersting wiki links I assume you can translate it with google: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Bulle https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Montagnards_de_la_nuit The triangular insigna is for the Secret Army of Savoie. The letters A.S. on the documents mean "Armée Secrète" (Secret Army). https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armée_secrète_(France) Thank you Very Much for you Help and taking the time to include all those Great Links I just printed about 50 pages of info Looking forward reading all this and updating the Information to include this additional info Awesome my friend and in case I did not say it enough THANKS Dennis
toitoine66 Posted December 14, 2024 #4 Posted December 14, 2024 You welcome, the résistance FFI are not very often well documented as there is so many Maquis. Even in France, so I assume this wasn't easy for you. The Savoie maquis were very active as the Alpians montains were a key place for the Allied force. I m curious to know how this stuff finished in California ? 😊
GAZOO Posted December 14, 2024 Author #5 Posted December 14, 2024 9 hours ago, toitoine66 said: You welcome, the résistance FFI are not very often well documented as there is so many Maquis. Even in France, so I assume this wasn't easy for you. The Savoie maquis were very active as the Alpians montains were a key place for the Allied force. I m curious to know how this stuff finished in California ? 😊 Thanks again Friend, The Full Group was collected and put together in 2003/2004 By an Active Marine stationed at MARFOREUR in Germany. He decided one day to Commemorate the upcoming 60th anniversary of the Marine OSS Mission to Savoie/Hautes Savoie (UNION II) Includes photos of this Marine with Mrs ORTEZ and the two surviving members of the mission at the 2004 Ceremony Has scan of News paper article (2004) with photos as well also included Poster and brochures from the 1984 anniversary BTW Yes it required a Trade of a AVG Flying Tiger Pin and a stack of Cash. But it is only part of a Bigger Group for the "UNION II" Mission 2003/2004 This sub group, SAVOIE resistance grouping was received from the Family of one of the then young men who was on the Saisies mountain top. Group also includes his personnel Sten Gun Mag, His Green war time worn mountain smock, His Boots, and a Knuckle knife that the family says he was very proud of (traded for from another American solder who came through after the Drop) and his FATHERS 1891 Military Pass / Paybook The Large SAVOIE Resistance Pin was found in 2003 on a Flea Market day in Annecy France by the French Sergeant Major who later Authored the Book "British Parachutes" Full Group includes DROP Canister, and Experimental British Type X Harness (one of the actual harnesses used on the Union II Mission said to be Sgt Perry but only a verbal quote so cant be proven, is pictured in the Book BRITISH PARACHUTES by Jean-Louis PERQUIN
GAZOO Posted December 15, 2024 Author #6 Posted December 15, 2024 In case anyone is interested these photo's were included and mentioned as Resistance group who later liberated Albertville 5 photos total, If anyone is interested I can post closer photo shots Original Photos ?? backs have lines like us post cards but look like they were added later ???
toitoine66 Posted December 21, 2024 #7 Posted December 21, 2024 This kind of stuff can certainly interested the local museums.
GAZOO Posted December 23, 2024 Author #8 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 12:41 AM, toitoine66 said: This kind of stuff can certainly interested the local museums. Thanks I will have to see what I can find, and if they are interested +++ I need to find more images of BULLE, looking at the photo images in this Group I expect to find HIM since these are supposedly BEFORE the Liberation of Albertville, thinking that may be him in the lighter colored uniform in front, and along side of the marching Unit in another. BUT ????
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