Capgun/ trainer

[2CanSam]

Hey there, I'm hoping someone else has a bit more information on these as there's not much out there... I only know of one other one that a member on the gunbot Japanese forum has. They're pretty neat little rifles that don't shoot blanks but instead fire caps (like pictured).... Does anybody have information on what type of caps the Japanese would have used?.... thanks 

[Mr. Bushido]

There is very little information available on this subject, so I apologize in advance for any inaccuracies.

 

At this point, I believe this bullet was used in a training rifle.

 

https://aucview.com/yahoo/g466351562/

[2CanSam]

Thank you for the link... But my gun has a flat hard surface at the breach so there's no way to insert a bullet or anything. It just operates off of the bolt slamming into a cap at the breach. Much like the cap guns from back in the day.... Not so much as a blank firing cartridge as pictured in the link

I guess my previous post was a little confusing. What I meant to say was there's nowhere to insert a cartridge

If there's any confusion in my previous post, what I meant to say was there's nowhere to insert any cartridge, it's just a flat surface

[Mr. Bushido]

Thank you for your correction.

Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to solve your question.

 

Although this is only a prediction, it is even possible that this gun has never been loaded with a bullet.

 

This item is stamped with the name of the school from the time of the Empire of Japan.

In other words, it was likely used for military training, which was mandatory for students at the time.

The main activities were learning marching, shooting postures, and forming formations.

Although your rifle is sophisticated, there are cases where rifle-shaped wooden sticks were used due to differences in the financial and industrial capabilities of local governments.

 

I hope these will be of some help to you.

 

https://regimentals.jugem.jp/?eid=4121#gsc.tab=0

https://note.com/sensou188/n/n9d71154c7b3c

www.regimentals.jp/detail_gun.php?id=6481

[2CanSam]

2 hours ago, Mr. Bushido said:

Thank you for your correction.

Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to solve your question.

 

Although this is only a prediction, it is even possible that this gun has never been loaded with a bullet.

 

This item is stamped with the name of the school from the time of the Empire of Japan.

In other words, it was likely used for military training, which was mandatory for students at the time.

The main activities were learning marching, shooting postures, and forming formations.

Although your rifle is sophisticated, there are cases where rifle-shaped wooden sticks were used due to differences in the financial and industrial capabilities of local governments.

 

I hope these will be of some help to you.

 

https://regimentals.jugem.jp/?eid=4121#gsc.tab=0

https://note.com/sensou188/n/n9d71154c7b3c

www.regimentals.jp/detail_gun.php?id=6481

Thanks! That is tremendous help and great information... I've owned and still do own several arasakas, some of which are the usual trainers, I just thought this one was a bit odd since it actually was a capgun... And I had never seen one before... I have a picture of it mentioned in a Japanese rifle collector's book but the bottom portion is obscured with some writing over the top of where it mentions the different arsenals... I'll try to dig that old picture out... Thanks again