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#1 Capt Trips

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:53 AM

Picked these up not to long ago, I know they are real(not sure about ribbons), I paid 85.00 for both, good deal?, I wanted for a display not really up on Nazi medals. Thanks in advancePosted Image

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#2 Rakkasan187

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 07:32 AM

Can you take pictures of the backs please..

 

They both look alright but more pictures needed.. Looks like the West Wall medal has some Zinc Pest.. If you have a blacklight you can check the ribbons for glow..

 

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 08:08 AM

Thanks Leigh, I will


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 05:08 PM

Here's the backside, and I tested them with a blacklight and no glow. Posted Image

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 07:50 PM

Both look fine, black light wont tell you much though for future reference. There was plenty of original stock of ribbons, not sure Ive ever had a ribbon that glows under uv light

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 08:08 AM

I have an original West Wall medal and original Ost Medal that both have reproduction ribbons that glow under blacklight... for future reference..

 

I will post some pictures of said ribbons that glow under blacklight later this week...

 

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 01:17 PM

What are the fasmille signatures? Is one Hitler and one Himmler?

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 02:16 PM

The signature on the back of the Mother's Cross is the facsimile of Adolph Hitler's. The date 16 December 1938 is reference to when the decoration was established. The Decoration was awarded annually on the second Sunday in May, known as Mothering Sunday or Mother's Day. It was first issued in May 1939. The Decoration was also awarded on other National annual occasions of celebration. The medal was awarded in three classes, Bronze 3rd Class (eligible mothers with 4 to 5 children) Silver 2nd Class (eligible mothers with 6-7 children) and Gold 1st Class, ( eligible mothers with 8 or more children)  

 

There were two official reverse sides of the mother's cross. The first early cross had the inscription Das Kind adelt die mutter (The child ennobles the Mother). These were found on the first decorations produced in early 1939. Later versions produced in  late 1939 to 1945  had the inscription removed and replaced with the date of the decoration decree which was 16 December 1938. On both early style and later version was Hitler's facsimile signature so the one you have pictured is a later version.

 

It also appears to be bronze in color indicating this is a 3rd class award.

 

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 02:23 PM

The West Wall medal was established in August 1939 and given to those personnel who help design and build the fortifications on Germany's Western Borders, also known as the Siegfried Line. In November 1939 the eligibility was extended to Soldiers who served on the West wall for a certain period of time. Initially the West Wall medal was awarded to about 623,000 individuals and then it ceased to be awarded in January 1941. After the Normandy invasion it was re-instituted and awarded to those  who help renovate and strengthen the fortifications on the Western borders. It was awarded to over 800,000 by the end of the war.

 

The inscription on the back Fur Arbeit zum Schutze Deutschland (For work in the defense of Germany)

 

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:41 PM

Thank you Leigh, ok one signature is Hitler , what is the other?,

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 07:57 AM

The entire signature on the Mothers Cross is Hitler's.. The first scribble to the right is his first name,,, Adolf.. This is one of many known signature variations of Hitler through his years..

 

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