Hsin C. Posted November 26, 2018 Share #1 Posted November 26, 2018 Here is a lieutenant frock navy set I have. I didn't have the bicorne hat pictured, but I do have it. Sword is there, can kind of see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted November 26, 2018 Share #2 Posted November 26, 2018 Beautiful frock coat and very complete! Violet belt piping for engineers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA227 Posted November 26, 2018 Share #3 Posted November 26, 2018 Nice coat. Rich A. in Pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted November 26, 2018 Share #4 Posted November 26, 2018 Beautiful frock coat and very complete! Violet belt piping for engineers? That is right Matt, Violet for the Engineer Department, source, Andrew Mollo's 1975 Macmillan color series book, Naval, Marine and Air Force Uniforms of World War II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted November 26, 2018 Share #5 Posted November 26, 2018 That is right Matt, Violet for the Engineer Department, source, Andrew Mollo's 1975 Macmillan color series book, Naval, Marine and Air Force Uniforms of World War II. I've been studying up on the IJN, the Naval Historical Foundation did an article about piping on collar tabs: https://www.navyhistory.org/2015/04/ditty-bag-imperial-japanese-navy-collar-tabs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted November 27, 2018 Share #6 Posted November 27, 2018 I wasn't aware they used the colored piping on dress belts before seeing this one. Very elegant uniform! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsin C. Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted November 29, 2018 Thanks RRA, Matt, and Patches. Great link Matt. Never seen a few of the other colors before. I have seen the red, white, purple, and standard line officer belts so far. I have seen a green piped IJN peaked officer visor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted November 30, 2018 Share #8 Posted November 30, 2018 As I understand, the use of colored piping on the visor caps was short-lived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsin C. Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted December 14, 2018 No idea.. but maybe so.. since they are very rare to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted December 14, 2018 Share #10 Posted December 14, 2018 Daniel Griffin has a couple of examples of rare colored-piping IJN visor caps on his site: http://griffinmilitaria.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?cat=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger41 Posted January 7, 2019 Share #11 Posted January 7, 2019 According to the information I have, the color piping worn on officers and midshipman's service visor hats only was a limited program for men who were referred to as "special service officers". The program doesn't appear to have been well thought out and was abolished after about a year in the early 1940's.There were only 2 colors worn....purple (engineering) and white (accounting) on the service hats likely due to the shortage of officers in these specialized fields. Men were brought up from the enlisted ranks to fill these positions hence the name "special service officers". The size of the striping on the officer's shoulder boards also reflects this position. The color piping was never worn on enlisted hats. These same colors were worn on officers dress belts as well as their shoulder boards and collar insignia and conform with the colors of the metal cherry blossoms on post November 1942 enlisted sleeve insignia. Late in the war an additional "brown" cherry blossom was added. However, I have not seen brown on the officers belts or other rank insignia but have seen green, white, purple, red and royal blue so I would assume there must have been a light blue (aviation) piping on the dress belt also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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