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Just picked up these buckles - Franco-era badges and early 1900s Spanish Artillery Buckle


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I know the brass square buckle is Artillery but I am not familiar with the three oval cross strap plates.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated and acknowledged.

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stratasfan

For the two ovals that have the eagle with the quartered arms in the center . . . try Spain, 1938-45. 

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Let me go online and see if I can find an image and check . . . 

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Here is one of Spain under Franco . . . I'd say that's what those two are:

 

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Boy Howdy

Sure does look like it.

Thank you very much Ms. Liz.

I know the brass Artillery buckle is Spain,Alphonso XIII, 1902-1931.

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stratasfan

Oh, I see your reply! That's cool! I'd guess the fourth is Spanish, too, as the design and back are so similar. So far, haven't found that particular design. Still looking! :)

 

You know . . . everytime it is an Eagle insignia and I'm trying to ID, it turns out to be Franco. I should just start typing that their Franco right off! -grin- 

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Boy Howdy

I think it may be an officers' buckle due to the construction.

Can't find the exact picture of it anywhere so far.

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stratasfan

Out of curiosity . .. on that last oval badge, is the red of the crown actually that red backing showing through?

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Just now, stratasfan said:

Oh, I see your reply! That's cool! I'd guess the fourth is Spanish, too, as the design and back are so similar. So far, haven't found that particular design. Still looking! :)

 

You know . . . everytime it is an Eagle insignia and I'm trying to ID, it turns out to be Franco. I should just start typing that their Franco right off! -grin- 

LOL 😆

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1 minute ago, stratasfan said:

Out of curiosity . .. on that last oval badge, is the red of the crown actually that red backing showing through?

It might be.

I just bought these on the bay today.

Not in hand as of yet.

Now you have peaked my curiosity too.

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stratasfan

Super fun items! You'll have to post once you get them. I'm intrigued by that red backing. Really wonder if that is what you see through the front! :) 

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Great! I'm editing the title and moving this thread to Spain, so that the discussion can continue now that they are ID'd! Look forward to seeing them!

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21 minutes ago, stratasfan said:

Great! I'm editing the title and moving this thread to Spain, so that the discussion can continue now that they are ID'd! Look forward to seeing them!

thank you!

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Boy Howdy

The buckles arrived today.

The red showing through the crown is between the crown and the badge.

Enjoy.

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According to a Spanish website that sells replica badges the oval ones with the St. Johns Eagle is:

Medida: 6 x 4,20 cms. aprox. Sin imperdible. Placa del Cuerpo de Investigación periodo 1938-1942. Franco reorganizó este organismo y le incorporó el águila de San Juan. Posteriormente, le daría el nombre de Cuerpo General de Policía a partir del 1942.

 

Which, according to google translate, means:

1938 SPANISH SECURITY AND INVESTIGATION BADGE

Measure: 6 x 4.20 cms. approx. Without safety pin. Plate of the Investigation Corps period 1938-1942. Franco reorganized this body and incorporated the San Juan Eagle. Later, he would give it the name of the General Police Corps as of 1942

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This is the second version:

POLICE GENERAL CORPS PLATE 1942 . Plaque of the extinct general police force period 1942 - 1954, Franco period. Observe the eagle of San Juan, and read the legends "A great free" and "General Directorate of Security".

Measure: 5 x 4 cms. High quality metal. Flat without safety pin.

 

So, I would have to say mine date from between 1938-1942. 🙂

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stratasfan

Super cool info and those badges look even better with the new pictures! Really striking! That buckle is really nice looking, too. Love the detail!

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Boy Howdy

Thank you very much.

I just happened to be trolling through the bay and saw this grouping.

Pretty sure the buckle is for an officer. I have been told they are rare and hard to find.

I looked on the best website I know for Spanish Colonial items and he didn't have one.

Had to have it even though I didn't know what 75% of it was.

Research is half the fun,eh?

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