Real or fake WW2 German artillery badge?

[WW2az44]

Hi all I recently bought this for a mere 20 dollars, I have a small suspicion it’s fake because of the pin but not entirely certain. What do you think?

 

 

[WW2az44]

Sorry I just realized miscategorized this. Any help identifying would be appreciated 

[easterneagle87]

Coastal Artillery badge. But I’m not one to say real or fake. The hallmarks aren’t really clear/crisp

[Preppy Picker]

I’m not a fan and here is why, primarily the back is pitted which indicates cast and these medals, especially made by FF&L, are known to be die struck. In addition the pin and catch do not look correct. 

[WW2az44]

12 minutes ago, Preppy Picker said:

I’m not a fan and here is why, primarily the back is pitted which indicates cast and these medals, especially made by FF&L, are known to be die struck. In addition the pin and catch do not look correct. 

Thank you both, I was thinking the same about the pin and catch. Just wanted to be sure. Anybody else have a different opinion?

[Mr.Jerry]

I agree- a Bad Badge for the reasons stated.

[WW2az44]

9 hours ago, easterneagle87 said:

Coastal Artillery badge. But I’m not one to say real or fake. The hallmarks aren’t really clear/crisp

 

5 hours ago, Mr.Jerry said:

I agree- a Bad Badge for the reasons stated.

Thanks for your input! For 20 dollars it was a risk worth taking, I guess I’ll add it to the junk pile 😅

[Danny J]

Prob a great buy, looks legit to me....the catch on the back maybe replaced, but not sure.. But maker mark is good : FLL43 = Friedrich Linden of Ludenscheid, 1943

 

Heres another one for reference on yours if you like https://regimentals.co.uk/shop.php?code=84480

[Marshallj]

Fake. Please compare.

[WW2az44]

On 10/23/2024 at 3:04 AM, Danny J said:

Prob a great buy, looks legit to me....the catch on the back maybe replaced, but not sure.. But maker mark is good : FLL43 = Friedrich Linden of Ludenscheid, 1943

 

Heres another one for reference on yours if you like https://regimentals.co.uk/shop.php?code=84480

I had this confirmed as fake unfortunately! 

[Danny J]

yeah right, have to be real careful in this hobby i am learning...a lot of bad eggs trying make a dollar. 

[WW2az44]

On 10/28/2024 at 7:35 PM, Danny J said:

yeah right, have to be real careful in this hobby i am learning...a lot of bad eggs trying make a dollar. 

Very true and same with me! Even some of the so called expert websites sell fakes.

[Mr.Jerry]

There are some really good books out there on German badges, showing the various makers, and the correct markings, pins, hinges and catches for a particular time frame.

 

[WW2az44]

1 hour ago, Mr.Jerry said:

There are some really good books out there on German badges, showing the various makers, and the correct markings, pins, hinges and catches for a particular time frame.

 

I will have to pick one up! Anyone in particular you recommend?

[Steve Conway]

If you want solid reliable advice on any German WW2 item Wehrmacht-awards.com is one of the best places to get it. The forum administrators are the guys that have written most of the great reference books available on German WW2 badges. They have other forums also but I wouldn't rate them as highly as the WW2 german ones.

 

By the bye your badge looks like a cast badge which would immediately put it in the fake category, it also looks like it is made of lead or some similar soft material, if any solid WW2 German badge can be bent easily it is definitely fake, but for $20 I would say it wasn't a rip off - it just couldn't be genuine.

 

Regards

Steve

[Danny J]

Yes, I have been collecting some fantastic reference books, but not the german badge one, as yet

[WW2az44]

5 hours ago, Steve Conway said:

If you want solid reliable advice on any German WW2 item Wehrmacht-awards.com is one of the best places to get it. The forum administrators are the guys that have written most of the great reference books available on German WW2 badges. They have other forums also but I wouldn't rate them as highly as the WW2 german ones.

 

By the bye your badge looks like a cast badge which would immediately put it in the fake category, it also looks like it is made of lead or some similar soft material, if any solid WW2 German badge can be bent easily it is definitely fake, but for $20 I would say it wasn't a rip off - it just couldn't be genuine.

 

Regards

Steve

Thanks I will check out that forum 👍 I will keep that in mind for the future, for $20 it was a gamble that couldn’t hurt. Maybe I’ll get lucky next time! 

[Mr.Jerry]

German Combat Badges of the Third Reich Volume 1 & 2 (LW)

not cheap, but worth it if it keeps you from buying even 1 fake badge.

[dcbrown]

It's important to note that replica badges often have maker marks that are identical to legitimate WWII makers. The fact that a badge is marked has little to do with determining authenticity.