May 14, 20197 yr #1 As I have shown my tiger flag here is my other flag, also from a good friend. This flag has seen some serious action and sadly is heavily blood stained through out. It also looks like shrapnel damage has ripped through certain parts, Its colouring and ageing throughout show this in my opinion to be a prayer flag that was actually carried into battle and taken by a marine as a trophy. A stunning piece I have had framed with museum grade glass and acid free backing to preserve for future generations. Any help on the writing or names would be very fantastic
May 22, 20197 yr #6 That reflected image makes a great selfie. You should consider using it for your avatar on here. Excellent example of a flag as well.
May 22, 20197 yr Author #7 That reflected image makes a great selfie. You should consider using it for your avatar on here. Excellent example of a flag as well. Thanks GWB Ill add it to my avatar
May 22, 20197 yr Author #11 Can you post a close up of the crane? Is this one ok in your opinion Thankyou
May 23, 20197 yr #14 The more I look at this flag, the more the crane bothers me. It looks much fresher than all the other writing. Hope you didnt buy it from the monkey! It may have been one of his add ons! PG-
May 23, 20197 yr #15 Hi Leo, To the left of the crane: 勝 = Victory Right side of the flag, vertical: looks like a slogan that ends with “久” but I’m not good enough to read it. Often the recipient’s name end with “Kun” (something like “young master”) 君 but if it’s there I don’t see it. Obviously most of the writing on the flag is the signatures of well-wishers. Two names on the left side (you can probably guess which ones): 山村 勇一 Yamamura Yuuichi 沖田 賢三 Okita Kenzou BTW, what’s the tape for? Cheers! Hi Paul, The crane looks good to me, not sure what you're seeing. Rod
May 24, 20197 yr Author #16 Hi Leo, To the left of the crane: 勝 = Victory Right side of the flag, vertical: looks like a slogan that ends with 久 but Im not good enough to read it. Often the recipients name end with Kun (something like young master) 君 but if its there I dont see it. Obviously most of the writing on the flag is the signatures of well-wishers. Two names on the left side (you can probably guess which ones): 山村 勇一 Yamamura Yuuichi 沖田 賢三 Okita Kenzou BTW, whats the tape for? Cheers! Hi Paul, The crane looks good to me, not sure what you're seeing. Rod Thanks Rod for the info IMHO none of this looks like samurai monkeys work, the crane looks to good for him and the lines are very well drawn. Since he has come to my attention I have studied his crap in detail and now see the tell tale signs. The whole of this flag has correct ageing and the blood on it is unmistakable imho. Nothing of his looks like this Thanks again for all the comments Ps good spot on the tape , I just moved house and was boxing up items for the attic
May 24, 20197 yr #17 Rod, I think the shou 勝 is part of hisshou 必勝 "certain victory" The ku 久 is part of a female name Kiku 希久 (one of the well wishers) I am certainly no expert on Japanese flags (or on this person making the fakes) but I have seen a fair amount of original material over the years and, from the images provided, the piece does not look messed with/enhanced to me
May 24, 20197 yr #18 Eric- The "Monkey" person they are referring to was also known as Cupman. He lived in Japan the same time you were there and was always at the flea markets. If he bought three things at the same show, and even if they were three different branches of service, they would become a grouping. I had a run in with him a couple of times at Togo-jinga market.
May 24, 20197 yr Author #19 Rod, I think the shou 勝 is part of hisshou 必勝 "certain victory" The ku 久 is part of a female name Kiku 希久 (one of the well wishers) I am certainly no expert on Japanese flags (or on this person making the fakes) but I have seen a fair amount of original material over the years and, from the images provided, the piece does not look messed with/enhanced to me Thanks once again Eric for your great translation on the flag. All help here has been greatly appreciated
May 24, 20197 yr Author #20 Eric- The "Monkey" person they are referring to was also known as Cupman. He lived in Japan the same time you were there and was always at the flea markets. If he bought three things at the same show, and even if they were three different branches of service, they would become a grouping. I had a run in with him a couple of times at Togo-jinga market. The guy seems like a real piece of work ! Thank goodness people caught on to him and have taken the time to expose him Thankyou all
May 24, 20197 yr #21 Rod, I think the shou 勝 is part of hisshou 必勝 "certain victory" The ku 久 is part of a female name Kiku 希久 (one of the well wishers) Thanks Eric, I certainly missed "Certain" (duh). I see "Kiku" now with your help but probably shouldn't have bothered with it in the first place. I can usually sort out most Japanese handwriting but grass writing... nope! Thanks again, I appreciate the assist! Rod
May 24, 20197 yr #22 Thanks Rod for the info IMHO none of this looks like samurai monkeys work, the crane looks to good for him and the lines are very well drawn. Since he has come to my attention I have studied his crap in detail and now see the tell tale signs. The whole of this flag has correct ageing and the blood on it is unmistakable imho. Nothing of his looks like this Thanks again for all the comments Ps good spot on the tape , I just moved house and was boxing up items for the attic Leo, IMO your flag is a classic one looker. Clearly signed by a number of different hands, I'd be comfortable with its authenticity if it were mine. That's a great frame for it too! vintageproductions quote: Eric- The "Monkey" person they are referring to was also known as Cupman. He lived in Japan the same time you were there and was always at the flea markets. If he bought three things at the same show, and even if they were three different branches of service, they would become a grouping. I had a run in with him a couple of times at Togo-jinga market. Never hurts to be reminded there are Cupman's in this world... thanks for posting vintageproductions! Cheers!
May 25, 20197 yr Author #23 Leo, IMO your flag is a classic one looker. Clearly signed by a number of different hands, I'd be comfortable with its authenticity if it were mine. That's a great frame for it too! Never hurts to be reminded there are Cupman's in this world... thanks for posting vintageproductions! Cheers! Thanks Rod Ive been speaking with Michael Bortner who has been very kind in looking over the photos and is as of the same mind of the flag being correct. His exact phrases Based upon the photographs, your framed flag appears to be a nice, vintage good luck flag. I see numerous signatures, slogans and terrific inked drawing of what appears to be a crane; all make your flag quite historically interesting Thanks Rod
May 29, 20197 yr #24 This flag was on ebay sometime around February. What people need to realize is the monkey is not just making all of them from scratch. He has taken nice one looker originals and added artwork to raise the return. I honestly cannot remember if he was the seller of the crane flag but he may have been. Leo, what was your friends response to all this? Why make up the grouping story?
May 29, 20197 yr #25 Eric- The "Monkey" person they are referring to was also known as Cupman. He lived in Japan the same time you were there and was always at the flea markets. If he bought three things at the same show, and even if they were three different branches of service, they would become a grouping. I had a run in with him a couple of times at Togo-jinga market. Hello Bob, are you positive this is cupman? Have you watched the monkeys videos on youtube? Both are criminals. Cupman's stuff is easy to spot. The monkey is pretty good and getting better all the time.
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