October 27, 20214 yr #1 Hello Gents, Today's query concerns a beautiful little 6x30 [ Although probably 8x30 ] set of Binoculars that I picked up about 20 years ago. I knew the nomenclature markings were some variant of East European, & that they appeared to be of superior quality. Personally, I have a strong suspicion they are of Hungarian origin, yet may be of East German / DDR manufacture. They're definitely either Military or Para Military issue, as they possess an integral 'Range Finder' Reticle on one of their lens. ( Perfect if I ever need to call in Artillery fire on the neighbors. ) As far as I've been able to determine, the logo indicates issue to, or property of, 'People's Militia' Force, or some similar organization. They came in an excellent quality leather case, & I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were of Carl Zeiss manufacture. I'd love to know their relative date of manufacture, who made them, & if possible, to whom they were issued, or used by ? Other than 'thinking' the nomenclature observed on them 'appears' to indicate their being of Hungarian origin, perhaps from the 1950's - 1960's era ? Based upon a cursory 'Google' search, the lettering appears to 'possibly' refer to some form of either National Guard, Territorial Army, or Militia issue, although I can not definitively say for certain. I can state that they do appear to be of superior quality, exhibiting exceptionally clear lenses, which 'may' possibility indicate East German manufacture, although I find no markings indicating such. I would truly LOVE to gain an idea as to where, or by whom they were manufactured, the Agency who had, or may have used / issued them, along with of course their dates of production, & era of issue ? Other than the observed Markings, one of the lenses has an 'Range Finder', which of course would indicate the necessity of calling in artillery fire. Soooo, if anyone could please tell me anything about this elusive pair of Binoculars, I will be extremely appreciative !! THANK YOU !! Best, dpast32
October 27, 20214 yr #2 Hi dpast, seems to be a set of Hungarian Worker´s Guard binoculars. Source: https://www.gunboards.com/threads/binoculars-id-help-needed.229994/
October 27, 20214 yr Author #3 THANK YOU, yet again Lars, I truly do appreciate all your very kind assistance ! I had an idea as to their relative issue, yet wasn't all that sure as to their place of manufacture. I will say one thing, these Binoculars are on par in quality with my Steiner 8x30's, without question ! Now, if I only have a conversion chart to figure out how to apply the 'Range Finding Reticle' which is superimposed on one of the lenses ? I assume I might be able to utilize it for basic distance calculations ? THANKS AGAIN !! Best, Dom P. / 'dpast32'
October 27, 20214 yr #4 Yes, and it looks very similar to 8 x 30 Zeiss binoculars I have seen. Can you post a picture or a drawing of the reticle?
October 27, 20214 yr Author #5 Will do Lars, can't get to it tonight, but will try to get you at least a drawing of it tomorrow. Stay tuned my Friend, Dom
October 30, 20214 yr Author #6 Sorry Lars, I haven't forgotten about you, I've just been all tied up around here dealing with some exceptionally inclement weather ! Honestly, I'll never figure out how to actually photograph the 'range grid' inside the lens, but will, at least as best I'm able will attempt drawing an facsimile of it for you. As far as my Binoculars, I have absolutely no idea as to how they got to where I found them, which was a Gun Shop down in the southern part of my State. Back when I obtained them,the Internet was still in its infancy, therefore not providing much assistance at all in determining their markings, & subsequently b their Country of origin & issue ? Fortunately, as the Internet broadened, I was able to at least determine they were marked to what appeared to the 'Hungarian People's or Worker's Militia' Forces, though I still wasn't absolutely certain I was correct in that assumption. At least now, with your very kind & continued assistance I am able to confirm with some certainty that n they are indeed what I initially suspected. THANKS AGAIN Lars !! Best, dpast32 / Dom P.
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